Billy the Ex-Bethelite

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  New light?

  by Ignoranceisbliss in

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  my father who is an elder with decent organizational connections mentioned that very soon there would be "new light" regarding the resurrected being able to be married.

  this would make sense because our current understanding has never made any sense to me.

  has any one else heard anything about that?.

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  Billy the Ex-Bethelite

  New light: The dearly departed are still alive in Jehovah's memory.

  Newer light: If a spouse dies, they are still alive in Jehovah's memory, so widows/widowers can't remarry because their spouse isn't 100% dead.
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  An Open Letter to the Treasurer's Office

  by DNCall in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  watch tower bible & tract society of pennsylvania, inc.. treasurers office.

  gentlemen and ladies:.

  manifestly, you appreciate the value of marketing as can be seen by the launch of jw.org.

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  Billy the Ex-Bethelite

  If they really want jw.org to get any attention, they better start advertising.

  I suggest they go where the traffic is and buy ad space on all the porn websites.

  They'll need some catchy slogans, maybe a poem:

  "When you're done with masturbation,
  click here to read about salvation!"
  And have a composite picture with perfect people, paradise, and the WT logo... and a panda.
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  Work is underway for transform WT buildings into office and retail space

  by redvip2000 in

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  2. current

  there was piece in the ny daily news about the work being done to the "old" wt building in brooklyn heights.. some hightlights:.

  "the kushner companies-owned buldings, which traded hands for $375 million brooklyns most ballyhooed sale last year will cater to creative-class tenants.

  amenities will include a gourmet market, roof deck, pet-friendly spaces, daycare facilities and bicycle storage.".

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  Billy the Ex-Bethelite

  $375 million would build a lot of assembly halls and kingdom halls, even after building their new remote headquarters compound. And there would still be plenty left to pay the reimbursements for DOs. And all of this cash on top of the hundreds of millions they've received from the sale of other properties in Brooklyn and around the world.

  So, I wonder where all that money has gone?
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  2014-03-29 BOE CONFIDENTIALS PDF Adjustment to financing Kingdom Hall and Assembly Hall construction worldwide

  by WatchTower87 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  2014-03-29 adjustment to financing kingdom hall and assembly hall construction worldwide.

  pdf version: http://adf.ly/juxnc.

  instruction: press the 'skip ad' button top right, you should then see the download screen more easily.

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  Billy the Ex-Bethelite

  On one hand, WT is giving up some levels of control by getting rid of DOs, which used to be a valuable level of direction and leadership. And WT is leaving elder and MS appointments to COs, rather than keeping the control in the hands of "Mother" (even if it was usually just a rubber stamp at the branch).

  On the other hand, WT is tightening control over money. There are strict procedures for collection. How the money gets spent is totally at the discretion of "Mother".

  Watchtower Corporation has clear priorities. Money is a priority for the GB. Holy spirit appointing elders and MS? Pfft. The CO, Joey Greenhandshakes, can select all the shepherds. The GB is too busy counting money to care about the shepherds or sheep.
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  Grandma called the other day, and chose to tell my kids about the tornadoes

  by Faithful Witness in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i know this might be overreacting, and i have not said a peep about it to my kids or anyone else... .

  last week, my kids wanted to call my mom during the day.

  on her last visit, they had talked about calling her on her day off at home.

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  Billy the Ex-Bethelite

  Global warming is caused by JWs wastefully burning fossil fuels when they spend hours driving around to not-at-homes. So all the catastrophic bad weather is caused by WT.
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  Millions Now Living Have Never Lived So Well

  by Bob_NC in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  that's right, millions now living are living during the best of times for humanity.

  but aren't these critical times hard to deal with?

  aren't these the last days of a dying wicked system of things.

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  Doesn't the Bible predict that obesity would be part of the Sign of the Last Days?
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  New 1914 Tees Avalialbe Now

  by biometrics in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  here's my first tee shirt design.

  it's something only ex-jws could relate to, yet could also be worn while still in "the truth":.

  http://www.cafepress.com.au/thetruth14.

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  Billy the Ex-Bethelite

  How about a tee that says something like:

  Jesus began ruling in

  1914

  and all I got was this lousy t-shirt!
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  Today's "Special" Talk

  by piztjw in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  okay folks...here it is:.

  blah blah blah blah, bad things and tragedies.

  blah blah blah blah, satan!

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  Billy the Ex-Bethelite

  Here's how every "Talk" goes...

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHcdCYf0Xo0&list=PL9C2C722A84800994
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  Letter to BOE: Adjustment in process for appointing elders and ministerial servants

  by pixel in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hello, you read it here first!.

  governing body of jehovah's witnesses.

  to all congregations.

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  Billy the Ex-Bethelite

  As long as WT policy continues to be that the elders are to call the Legal Department at the local branch office FIRST when they hear of any child abuse, WT will continue to be held responsible for protecting pedos. It doesn't matter who does the appointing when it's WT Legal Dept that's so obviously pulling the strings.

  Back in the day they claimed elders to be SPIRIT APPOINTED!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  Indeed. There is no mention of holy spirit in this letter.

  It's been years since I was in Bethel. So my frame of reference on the thinking of Writing/Service Departments is outdated with all the changes. In my estimation, there must be a reason that it was announced to the entire congregation rather than just sending a letter to the BOE changing the procedure. I'm wondering if this is a response to the study articles back in January that promoted the elders as "Jesus on earth". I wouldn't be surprised if WT got swamped with letters asking, "How did Br. Dipsh!t get appointed by the GB? He was arrested for beating his wife, so don't tell me that I should trust him as a shepherd."

  The brevity of this letter with "article to follow" seems like a knee-jerk reaction. The reason "we're doing it like the scriptures" is bizarre, because their reason for doing it the old way was because the technology to check with the GB and have a "spirit appointed" response in a couple of weeks wasn't possible in the 1st century. So why are they dumping the technology for the GB to "prayerfully review each recommendation"? Two things come to my mind:

  1) Reducing paperwork for Service Department. Saves postage and a few bethelites with rubber stamps.

  2) Less blame for the branch and GB when Br. Dipsh!t gets appointed. You can't blame the GB's lack of holy spirit when it's just the CO that does the appointing. And the COs will continue to get rotated so they only have a limited amount of blame before they get a fresh start.

  I just wonder what kind of mail they get at WT these days. Back when I was in Bethel, I knew that they were continually swamped with letters that they took months/years to respond to. Since they've already said, "please stop writing to the branch" it must have gotten a lot worse.

  ...of course, it doesn't help when people like me keep writing letters to the branch using other peoples' names and addresses.
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  The Governing Body told two Elders to call !!!!

  by Phizzy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a friend from the other end of the country just 'phoned and told me that a couple of days ago two elders knocked on his door.

  he has been out for four or more years.. they told him it was c.o's visit, and the governing body have asked them to call on those whom they no longer see at the k.hall.. i guess this is an easier "field" than knocking on doors that never open, or where they are told "not interested".. my friend bill though, was not such an easy call.

  apparently he managed to get in about 1914 being rubbish, the bible not being the word of god, because we cannot trust it, 1919 being rubbish as to the choosing of the fds and several other telling points.. i liked particularly that he said to them they were rather hypocritical asking householders to examine their faith, when jw's were simply not allowed to !.

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  Billy the Ex-Bethelite

  Pffft. The elders looking to bring back the lost sheep? Frankly, I think the JWs are the lost sheep.

  We've finally found the light and reality. We're living lives and thinking like humans, no longer the helpless sheep we used to be. The elders are trying to drag us back into the darkness and confusion as helpless sheep in their Watchtowerland.